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can the dishonest behavior of streamers damage the reputation of the casino?

 
Author Chris
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#1 | Posted: 18 Jul 2024 17:17 

Hello,

it seems that this Doctor is not always in a good mood, I'd say.

Even though I have my own opinion on casino streamers in general, I would not say that all of them act with such a level of disrespect.

As you said this is just an isolated case - I hope.

We in Casino Guru have been thinking lately that it would be quite an interesting idea to find a streamer who plays only with his/her money and show us how it works in real-life.

If every slot pays out so well with all the high stakes, we could be all very rich in almost no time - doesn't this sounds quite unbelievable? 🙂


Author Chris
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#2 | Posted: 19 Jul 2024 18:18 

As for the mood, maybe. But again - I raised the issue of reputation. I think it's important. It's more of a philosophical question. A lot of things in our society are built on trust. And compliance with agreements. That is why we can so easily pay for the goods in the store in advance and we know that it will be delivered to us. We don't need a team of lawyers to order pizza))


And by not fulfilling the agreements, such streamers not only spoil their reputation, but also the reputation of the casino they advertise. I think so, maybe I'm wrong. I would like to understand this.


And your idea - to find a streamer who plays for his own money - seems very interesting to me. But there are conditions. He either has to be damn lucky and win more often than lose. Or he must have a lot of viewers so that the income from displaying ads on Twitch and subscriptions covers the loss in the casino))


Author Emily
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#3 | Posted: 20 Jul 2024 02:59 

Hello,

I agree that being a sponsored streamer means that you are not only acting on your behalf so a higher level of credibility is in order - that's for sure. 

I'd dare to say there is nothing philosophical about being such a streamer, however. They have their sponsorship and aim to reach the highest number of viewers because it means profit.

Back to our idea: Those conditions are exactly the moral outcome we would like to present as a result of comparing the "real and professional associated with some casino" with a streamer who plays unofficially and who is not in any relation with any casino. 

If we show that this unofficial streamer is mostly losing, maybe people will find a way to alter their current point of view. We believe that this whole idea is so simple and interesting that players would notice. 🙂


Author James
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#4 | Posted: 21 Jul 2024 09:49 

Good idea, I support it with both hands. People need to be reminded about responsible gambling and that they will mostly lose at the casino if they are not the owners of this casino))


Author Emily
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#5 | Posted: 21 Jul 2024 12:08 

Hi, there's another ongoing discussion about fake casino streamers: https://casino.guru/forum/general-gambling-discussion/truth-about-streamers

Generally speaking, we already know that casino have the power to change RTP on their games, they also have the power to add real money to the streamer's account, but then limit the withdrawals due to a signed contract between the streamer and the casino.

Casino streamers are an interesting topic that we just discussed a last week. I believe that it would be interesting to have our own CasinoGuru streamer and show the real games and results without having any deals with casinos 🙂


Author John
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#6 | Posted: 22 Jul 2024 21:15 

100% damaging to players. I got into "gambling" by watching these gamer streamers turn into Gamdom affiliates and ultimately after never even buying a scratch card spent 2 years with my neck down facing a screen spinning away my life on slots.

these false streamers that accept either a pay out to advertise, fake money to stream and/ or take affiliate deals from the lose of others whilst showing a false reality of gambling is absolutely shameless.

I believe Twitch needs to do more to enforce that what we are watching isn’t gambling, it’s straight advertisement for casinos. Gamdom VIP openly told me their biggest streamers Von Dice and WatchGamesTV both take 300% deposit deals, (proof on Imgur)

The casinos all have unethical practice, popular streamer TrainwreckTV sums it up perfectly as to "why he’s paid to play at Stake", if he plays anywhere else it’s damaging for them and they "loose" money? Yet they pay him to sit and state "do not gamble, you will not break even you will not win" … and they still pay him multi millions dollars per month.. it’s absolutely disgusting and unethical. I lost over $300,000 in less than 3 months. No I’m not rich, no I couldn’t afford to loose it. I am an addict, to the worse addiction possible. I almost wish I was a cr-ck addict since I’d have ultimately OD’d and have something to leave my family. Now I’m fighting day by day to afford to charge my phone. These casinos with no AML preventatives really are thieves.

to those that can afford to spend over $10,000 really shouldn’t be bothered if they’re KYCd. Other players look for these since either they’ve self excluded or their own countries don’t allow online gambling. (in my case over $150,000 on 2 separate occasions) 10000% only due to what I seen on screen. Still to this day never bought a scratch card cause I know you can’t win. But every single streamer affiliated to a casino makes it look like the most profitable thing in the world. All Scams.


Author David
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#7 | Posted: 25 Jul 2024 07:09 

I'd say that the situation is already well known. Furthermore, if the streamer provides"special" bonuses directly it is most probable that there are other aspects than simple luck. According to Daniel, we would like to show how things really work. Just have to find a proper streamer who shares our point of view.


Author David
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#8 | Posted: 27 Jul 2024 10:09 

I have seen something similar on youtube. I used to watch Rohstein from time to time and I think that just his bets he gives or the bonus buy he has is incredible. So anyone who has any knowledge about streamers and casinos has to realize that almost every big streamer works with them and almost never flips their own money. 

Do you follow streamers too ?


Author David
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#9 | Posted: 28 Jul 2024 22:20 

That is an interesting point of view, really. Maybe there will be some streamers here to tell us something about it. 🤷‍♀️


Author Michael
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#10 | Posted: 29 Jul 2024 03:19 

Yeah, sadly they always do what you have described. Please don't get your hopes up its make believe. Real casinos don't BS like that. They honor their promotions and they're re good at taking people's money without stealing it from them. How's that? Because you might actually win some money and if you wisely decide you'd like to keep the winnings in your pocket, a legitimate casino will actually pay out every cent of what they owe you. You're legitimate winnings are never just forgotten and swept under the rug or forfeited. A real casino periodically goes over every single transaction and will mail you a check for five cents if a single winning pull of slot somehow slipped by unnoticed they'll eventually find it and pay to mail you your check in the amount of five cents. I can prove it. I have a check for five cents. It costs them lime 57 cents to mail it but they squared up with me for something I would have never known about.


Author Isabella
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#11 | Posted: 31 Jul 2024 10:51 

It's great to see that such casinos exist, I mean I come across the last two sentences where you describe that they were honest. Unfortunately in the online world there are more and more casinos and sometimes it is hard to tell which is honest and which is not. Of course, that's why I personally wouldn't give the new ones much of a chance. I would stay with the proven ones and wait for the others that have also proven themselves over time and have as few problems as possible. 

However, what casino are you talking about where they respect you and pay you even 5 cents?


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